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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:05 pm Reply with quote
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Hi Ray, I thought (possibly) you could give the members a rundown on your preferred list of your favorite books to read(or own) on English pocket watches?

This could prove to be a new avenue for collectors to learn and collect English watches and/or movements.

Thanks and stay well down there in the NT.

Thanks.

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Will do Jon.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:29 pm Reply with quote
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Thank you, Ray,

This could prove to be a valuable tool for those interested in or collecting English watches.

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This a good request. I have a lot of respect for the better English watches but they do not seem to be nearly so well documented as their American counterparts. Knowing the maker and date of a watch movement adds greatly to its perceived value - the satisfaction to be gained from collecting it. The American authors have done very well at this but matters are not so easy when it comes to English watches.

Very often the emphasis, where English watches are concerned, seems to be with the material and hallmarked date of the case. Whilst these aspects are important, there is often too little concentration on the maker and specifications of the movement. I have several books on English watches but the information that they provide about movements is fairly sparse.

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The Camerer Cuss Book of Antique Watches
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Hi, this is a good starter Book about English and Other Pocket Watches. It is available on the Big Auction site for a very reasonable cost. The Company is still going under another Name by agreement with the previous owner. Regards Ray About Us (henryhallpike.com)

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I have another 3 more Technical Books which I will post later on.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:56 am Reply with quote
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GREAT PRESENTATION

Thanks, Ray.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:16 pm Reply with quote
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I agree, this is great Ray.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:35 pm Reply with quote
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Yes, thanks Ray. That is a good start. I have seen that book and it is excellent, especially for older watches.

For myself, the English watches that I am trying to identify are mostly the later (1880s onwards) lever escapement going barrel non-fusee models. I must admit, I shy away from fusees!

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For later Hi-grade English watches there is the Frodsham book.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:28 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks, Jon, Frodsham I do not have.

A book that I do have is Watches 1850 - 1889 by M Cutmore and that is quite good, but not so good as the American books.

I think the English scene was far less organised than the American watch industry. In England, everyone did their own thing and few people would have had the whole picture. In many ways, that makes for variety and interest but it is hopeless for the collectors of today who might want to find a replacement case or a spare part.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:00 pm Reply with quote
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No, do not give up--Ray and I will work up an important list

I have a bunch in my mind but I need to drag them out for correct authors and pub dates, etc.

Ray does a better job than I --just look st his post above with the photos!

I think this is a very worthwhile project!


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