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| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:02 am |
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It's been going on since the 1970's Manny Tauring, La Rose, etc...
It will never end as long as the ignorant keep buying... |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:45 pm |
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It will never end because there is money in it.
As I keep saying people only do things when it is to their advantage.
If you want to protect original watches you have to find a way to make them worth more as they are.
Some kind of certificate to prove it is what it is.
Something that adds value to it.
Something that will be lost if you mess with the watch so that it will COST you money to switch parts.
Did you notice he called those dials DS dials.
Likely doesn't know what double sunk means. |
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 | | | They can't make a go of it dealing honestly with integrity |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:20 pm |
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| The real reason guys fake stuff is because they are too ignorant or lazy to learn to make an honest living doing the right thing. |
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Jon "the truth" Hanson,
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:57 am |
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They fake stuff cause they can get away with it.
No different to anything else.
That's why many other collectables have a system in place to authenticate.
Coins ?
Stamps ?
Vintage Cars ?
Paintings ?
Even pedigree dogs get faked and that is why you only get a dog with papers if you want to get serious about breeding to make money.
That is also why the ones with papers are worth more cause you KNOW they are right. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:32 am |
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| Why would anyone want to spend good money to fake a Burlington or a SantaFe dial? ...and furthermore....who gives a $#IT? Except for Johnny LaCambria's Sangamo Burlington they aren't worth restoring. I know this was a snotty thing to say but...it's true. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:17 am |
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Jon "the truth" Hanson,
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SUPPORT ETHICAL PRACTICES IN HOROLOGY--Keep watches original--DO NOT SWITCH, PART OUT OR "CREATE" POCKET abortions! |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:27 am |
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| Jon wrote: | | What Sangamo Burlington? |
I think they made 50 of them? Beautiful watches. Johnny L had one. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:51 pm |
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Per Dr. Snyder's Illinois database, the Burlington Sangamo run was from 1,984,511 to 1,984,610.
Movement 1,1984,610 is shown below. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:42 pm |
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| That's the one Ed. Thanks...that's the only Burlington Watch Company watch that I ever really wanted. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:09 pm |
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| What about the one GEM on the poster????? |
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SUPPORT ETHICAL PRACTICES IN HOROLOGY--Keep watches original--DO NOT SWITCH, PART OUT OR "CREATE" POCKET abortions! |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:16 pm |
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I believe I have John's Burlington, Sangamo Grade.....
Still as received in skeleton case...
believe obtained in Daytona when we delivered him to the airport....
Most Burlington Getty cases 'out there' have more wear than this movement/dial combo shows, so the skeleton case is most appropriate.
I've seen these dials on evay, so why a refinished one??? |
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ITs a beauty Terry
I Still miss it!!  |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:35 am |
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| Sangamo wrote: |
I've seen these dials on evay, so why a refinished one??? |
My point exactly. Glad this beautiful watch is still in the family. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:30 am |
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| Dials for these have different feet from the usual common Burlingtons. |
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Jon "the truth" Hanson,
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Founder and President of Chapter 149--the leading horological collectors' club!
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SUPPORT ETHICAL PRACTICES IN HOROLOGY--Keep watches original--DO NOT SWITCH, PART OUT OR "CREATE" POCKET abortions! |
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