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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:24 am Reply with quote
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OK-

Doc Ron said something that made me think - what were the WORST MADE American Pocket Watches??

SO - Let's get a survey here - what do you think are the most poorly made American Watches, AND which brand of these do you think are the LEAST collected????

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:59 pm Reply with quote
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New York Standard--few collectibles, except for worm gear, chronographs, convertibles, etc. Mostly rough watches

Trenton Watch Co.--few collectibles, except for 19J Ing-Trenton OF & HC, chronographs, convertibles, etc. ditto

Waterbury long winds--does anyone actually collect these except myself? Long winds a real nightmare?

South Bend Watch Co.--fairly good watches but no one cares, sans the Polaris, grades 294/295 and Studebakers, etc.

Dollar watches--many rare and unusual but does anyone care? Many awful movements; however, embossed and expo watches highly interesting in nice condition.

For starters here Neil............

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:19 pm Reply with quote
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That's a Good Start, Jon.

I think the most poorly made watches were the ones built by Cheshire and Appleton. NY Standard a close 2nd.

One of our members here is a South Bend Specialist (Lyle Stratton?).

I know someone who collects all Trentons.

Dollar watches - I knew one guy who loved the Long winds and skeletons - but I don't think he is active anymore.

For some reason, Columbus fell waay down the collectability score - anyone know why??

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:20 pm Reply with quote
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Almost forgot -

The Lever Winders were even worse - and I don't know anybody who bothers with them.

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Neilywatch wrote:
Almost forgot -

The Lever Winders were even worse - and I don't know anybody who bothers with them.


BUT, these are relics! And rare!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:38 pm Reply with quote
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As for Columbus--many hi grades poorly finished. Interesting as to the many variations, sizes, types and names on these.

The time to collect them is when no one wants them!

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Here is another poorly made product--Auburndale Watch Co. The Rotary may be the best of these, esp. the one with a detent escapement! The timers are basic horrid, as well as the KWs.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:12 pm Reply with quote
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Auburndales and and really late Marions can be absolute dogs to work on

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Low grade 4 and 7J UNITED STATES Marions are pretty awful.

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This brings up another point which I would like clarification. Why are Hampden and South Bend watches less desirable? Even the Hampden Balls are less desirable than other Ball watches.
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Because they are boring as compared to the other great companies--the finish, the appearance, and the general quality isn't up to Walthams and the best Elgin and Illinois mov'ts.

Same can be said for Seth Thomas and Columbus--lack of finish and true quality.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:05 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks Jon. Don't forget Howards (probably my favorite).
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Art once showed me what he referred to as a rare Hampden. When I asked what was so rare about it, he responded “It Runs” 🙃

I’ve used the same line a number of times since.

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Don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Some Hampdens are quit nice.

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........the freesprungs are nice...........

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