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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:51 pm Reply with quote
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Recently I picked up a model 1857 Waltham - Private Label or Employee watch. It is a bit out of character for what it is. I am open to all suggestions or determinations!

The Serial number is 66666.
The cock has a tiny house scene engraved on it.
The watch is listed as an Ellery 7j with steel balance.
The watch is 11j with gold balance and added index.
The mainplate has NO number, neither does the train plate.
The cock is number 61 only.
There is no other number on the barrel bridge.
The dial is an earlier American Watch Co dial with the light black ring on the inside of the numbers.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:08 pm Reply with quote
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the devil lives at the circus auction!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:30 pm Reply with quote
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LOL-

Yeah - my thoughts too re the serial #.

Now, Seriously----

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:18 pm Reply with quote
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One H and R exists with a small "cock" house and I think I have a Marion with one, too.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:58 am Reply with quote
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Neil, check the Waltham MA Census to see if Mr Harris was an employee.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:03 am Reply with quote
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Neil, check the Waltham MA Census to see if Mr Harris was an employee.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:46 am Reply with quote
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That's an idea - except I am not sure how to go about doing that?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:45 am Reply with quote
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Neil, I think the last time I did it I simply Googled it to start.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:35 am Reply with quote
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Neil, start here. http://www.censusfinder.com/massachusetts.htm Determine the year of the watch and search the Census near that date.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:35 pm Reply with quote
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Well - I got a little information - not sure what to with it?

There is a W Harris living in Roxbury in the 1855 and 1860 Mass Census. They also list his profession but it is almost unreadable to me.

It looks like "Japones" ??

Anybody wanna guess as what that was?

Likely an Employee watch - Earliest I've seen - if it is~

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:15 pm Reply with quote
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Maybe just a requested PL???

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:05 pm Reply with quote
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Neil, I think I might have talked to the Waltham Public Lib or the Historical Society to get access to the correct Census.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:42 pm Reply with quote
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The watch was finished supposedly in Jan 1863. The 1860 census would the closest to this watch.

I don't really have that much time to be making phone calls to the Roxbury library for specific info on this Harris fellow. Maybe after the holidays, I'll try to dig in further.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:12 pm Reply with quote
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Neil, I would talk to the Waltham one. Even though Roxbury isn't that far from the Factory it is still far since there was no public trans then. I think you need a Harris from Waltham.
PS. I need to send you my watch. Maybe I'll wait till after the first if the year.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:28 am Reply with quote
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Fun piece. I couldn't find anything connecting him to Waltham, which diminished my bid. Good luck though and hope you can make the connection!

Doubt we'll ever find out, but it would be great too determine the significance of the serial #!

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