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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:42 pm Reply with quote
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by the n/a

INCREDIBLE

"This resource (4sale.nawcc.org) is currently under evaluation by management pending upgrade or discontinuation. Sorry for any inconvenience."

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 8:04 pm Reply with quote
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this latest membership service reduction is rather odd on another account it is a given that ebay or on line sales is one of the main culprits for the diminished membership rolls and poor conventions or marts

if marts are such a disaster as i have been reading and eBay is so sales driven i would think that one answer might be to promote an association level trading center that is visible to all members and the public connected to the message board with a special extra fee for non nawcc members

why does the nawcc not understand what drives people and continue to do things backwards

the blinded camel effect continues by nawcc decision makers

doc ron

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:50 pm Reply with quote
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It seems that the n/a only wants paper mart ads, one that few read.

As far as on line the n/a only now will allow sales of their overpriced books and pamphlets, plus mugs, hats, aprons and other worthless crap.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:05 pm Reply with quote
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In the meantime part of the website has crashed AGAIN. Its been offline for 2 days now.

This is just depressing.

I should clarify that the DB part of the website is not available for 2 days now.

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Thank the great high wizard, TT for this one!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:08 pm Reply with quote
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Neilywatch wrote:
In the meantime part of the website has crashed AGAIN. Its been offline for 2 days now.

This is just depressing.

I should clarify that the DB part of the website is not available for 2 days now.


3 days and counting....

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:32 am Reply with quote
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Neilywatch wrote:
Neilywatch wrote:
In the meantime part of the website has crashed AGAIN. Its been offline for 2 days now.

This is just depressing.

I should clarify that the DB part of the website is not available for 2 days now.


3 days and counting....


5 DAYS AND COUNTING....... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:46 am Reply with quote
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Neilywatch wrote:
Neilywatch wrote:
Neilywatch wrote:
In the meantime part of the website has crashed AGAIN. Its been offline for 2 days now.

This is just depressing.

I should clarify that the DB part of the website is not available for 2 days now.


3 days and counting....


5 DAYS AND COUNTING....... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil


NOW 6 DAYS - can ANYBODY SEE if they can get into the Waltham DB?????

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:03 am Reply with quote
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The link to viewing the 2016 Bulletins is also down for the same amount of time.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:15 pm Reply with quote
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does any of the above surprise you

incompetents one gets what one pays for

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Posted by Tom McI Today, 10:36 AM

Re: NAWCC Posting of Waltham Hand Written Ledger & Other Info (RE: Robert McCabe)

As I mentioned in the original post announcing the unavailability of the nawcc-info site, I have no way to restore it before I return on July 9th. The Internet connection for its location is down. It should be restored before midnight on the 9th.

I am glad you find it useful.

I have plans to move it to a more secure NAWCC site later this summer but it was built in a tool set available in 2000 and will require conversion to a new facility.


http://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?134982-NAWCC-Posting-of-Waltham-Hand-Written-Ledger-Other-Info

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:37 pm Reply with quote
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Sangamo wrote:
Posted by Tom McI Today, 10:36 AM

Re: NAWCC Posting of Waltham Hand Written Ledger & Other Info (RE: Robert McCabe)

.......

I have plans to move it to a more secure NAWCC site later this summer but it was built in a tool set available in 2000 and will require conversion to a new facility.




Tom has been saying he was moving the database to a more secure site for years.

He set up the on his own server. The database belongs to him not the NAWCC.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:48 pm Reply with quote
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So What happens if he dies or becomes incapacitated????

This is bullshit.

The NAWCC used volunteers to load up all this data. And who owns the original Ledgers now? Are they still in NAWCC possession?

They should sue him to get off his ass and get it done already.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:35 pm Reply with quote
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I believe what they have are copies--I have originals.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:25 am Reply with quote
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Neilywatch wrote:
So What happens if he dies or becomes incapacitated????

This is bullshit.

The NAWCC used volunteers to load up all this data. And who owns the original Ledgers now? Are they still in NAWCC possession?

They should sue him to get off his ass and get it done already.


Neil

The database was never a NAWCC project and was never owned by the NAWCC.

I was one of the volunteers that worked on the database. When we finished inputting the data, we were going through and finding errors and sending Tom the information for him to fix the errors. Tom never did anything with the error reports we sent him or fixed very few.

The other part of the project that was supposed to happen but never got done, was anybody could report information on individual watches and that information would then get included in the database. Tom never did anything with this information either.

So the information in the database actually just became stagnant.

Tom has the whole thing on a server he owns at his house. At times like this when he is away and the server crashes there is nobody around to reboot the server and nobody can access the information.

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