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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:30 pm Reply with quote
434richmond
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Verges & English levers

For you guys contemplating buying a European watch I thought
I would share that it is possible to have a re-case with a matching
movement number. I have at least one re-case, (maybe 2, my Jeffrey's
watch is also a re-case with matching movement numbers). The jeweler
long ago would get a virgin case and re-stamp it, however they are
usually a bad or sloppy fit, like my two examples.

The re-case in these situations were long ago, perhaps 10-20 years
past the movement being made. This can occur in-frequently on pair
cases and also on later swing out levers. Just something to watch for
when viewing photos, if you don't have watch in hand.

Pair cases the gap between inner and outer case.
Swing out case on a lever, gap between the movement under dial and
dial seat vs. case housing, (sloppy fit). Keith

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:06 pm Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:50 pm Reply with quote
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To be fair watches were not always collectables.
They were made to be used and no doubt some got damaged and repaired and some cases wore out and were replaced.

They didn't all live in the sock draw waiting for a collector to find them.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:20 pm Reply with quote
434richmond
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More often than not, those watches we speak of had 18 to 22
karat gold cases at one time and wound up with a replacement
case in silver, a sloppy fit and perhaps wrong period cases.

Keith

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:54 pm Reply with quote
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I dunno, Keith.

We had this conversation before.

Recasing continental watches are very difficult. Its a real crapshoot.

I suppose if one had enough time and money and bought up all the orphan cases and movements, and figured out how to do casework, then recasing can be done, but I don't know too many people that will buy continental watches that have been recased.

American watches, a totally different story. I personally don't mind recases if they are correctly done with period cases.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:15 pm Reply with quote
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Neil, I picked up the Romilly as a surprise in a watch lot, recased.
So, leaving as is and restoring it. I would not buy any
of these watches knowing they were re-cased. Shoot for
original or don't play.

I am trying to case my Frodsham lever movements in silver. Keith

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