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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:04 pm Reply with quote
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Hi All-

I had a successful time at Syracuse. Sold almost $3000 worth of stuff - and bought just 2 watches.

One I want to ask all of you about.

It is my first 12 oz case (NO KIDDING!!). The only engraving on the outside is of an American Eagle with a shield.

Inside back cover say COIN then below it is an eagle inside a Rectangle, then over the eagle is stamped a circle. Thus partially obliterating the eagle. Below that is the number 1214.

On the inside back dust cover is the number 12 and again below it 1214.

One the inside front cover is again the eagle in a rectangle partially obliterated by a circle, with the number 1214 below it. The whole of the inside cover is beautifully decorated with engine work and scrolling around the outer perimeter.

Both hinges need work and the lift spring is GONE - no wonder!

How rare are these cases? I've seen only 2 others. What period are they from.

It came with a model 57 Ellery 7J with a 700,000 serial #. Most likely nonoriginal, but likely period~

Just love it! Will try to post a picture of it next week.

Should I have Wuischpard restore the hinges? He takes too long!!

Neil Wohl
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:29 pm Reply with quote
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I love these heavy cases but am yet to find one that heavy.
My understanding is that they came from a time when people were a bit ignorant of what a good watch was and they associated weight with quality. Mine is heavier than yours so it must be better.
They often had lower quality movements in them so the 7j might be origional. It was less likely for such a case to have a good quality movement in it cause someone who could afford a a good quality movement did not need to be convinced by additional weight.

When you wear one of these it makes you feel like
"The Fat Controller" Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:10 am Reply with quote
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Is 12 oz. the weight of the case and the movement ?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:48 am Reply with quote
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Hi Neil - I would like to see some pics of that eagle. Can you post some pics?? Sounds like Syracuse was good to you! - Ken

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:56 am Reply with quote
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No! 12 oz is just the weight of the case!! The case is stamped with a 12 - that is number of oz of the case.

I don't have a scale strong enough to weigh the exact amount of the case, will have to take to my jeweler freind who's got a BIG gram scale - LOL!

Neil

Will try to have pics posted later this week--
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:40 pm Reply with quote
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GAWDS - never seen any even close to that.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:00 pm Reply with quote
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several decades ago I sold a 12 oz series IV Howard silver OF case, empty!

The big mothers are rare. I also once traded an 8 oz 20-s PL KW Waltham HC in 18K to a friend and fellow 149er!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:13 pm Reply with quote
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JON! What kind of watch did you get that you gave up such a monstrous 20s gold watch for? I never heard of such a thing - an 8oz gold case? for a 20s?

What ever you got for it must have been UNBELIEVABLE! Shocked Shocked

Neil!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:32 pm Reply with quote
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I did OK!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:40 am Reply with quote
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12 Ounce???
This is a hard one to swallow-if I hadn't heard it here...
I honestly though 6 ounce was the limit. Can you see a 12 ouncer in any pocket without causing hilarious results?

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Hey Neil, how about a picture of that behemoth??

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:01 pm Reply with quote
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I sent a picture of the case to Jon - as I simply cannot figure out how to attach it to this reply. The website keeps telling me the picture is too big and will NOT load it to the site.

When he is able to load it - keep in mind the case on the left is 3oz. the case on the right is 6oz. the case in the middle is 12oz and has an eagle on the front cover. Hopefully you can see it.

Neil
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:28 pm Reply with quote
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Maximum attachment size is 1 Meg.

You may have to condense the file to under 1 Meg.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:57 pm Reply with quote
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12 ounces. That is like a pair of double D's Surprised

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:03 pm Reply with quote
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Hello Dolly!!!!

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