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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:06 pm Reply with quote
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interstatetime wrote:
Jon wrote:


Here is another idea I have had for many years: WHY NOT FEATURE A CATALOGUED AUCTION RUN BY A MAJOR AUCTION HOUSE AT THE ANUAL/SEMI ANUAL CONVENTIONS/MARTS ON THE LAST DAY TO KEEP DEALERS, MEMBERS AND OUTSIDERS FROM LEAVING EARLY? THERE ALSO COULD BE A LAST MINUTE "BULLET" AUCTION FOR LAST MINUTE UNSOLD CONSIGNMENT MART ITEMS.


Jon, I think perhaps you and I have talked about this before. I think this is an idea with a lot of merit and should definitely be explored.


Yes, I remember mentioning this to you several times in the past two years along with many other ideas--IT MAKES SENSE and RAISES the level participation and interest at a convention ( everyone loves auctions)!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:41 pm Reply with quote
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I will bring it up to the board. I agree that it is a good idea.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:17 pm Reply with quote
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Finally, after thinking and talking about this, someone decides to jump on it!

Only this one (?); as know I have a pocket full!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:50 pm Reply with quote
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interstatetime wrote:
Jon,

I agree with all of what you say with the possible exception of giving the chapters seed money... We don't have the money to do that right now and I think there are probably things besides money we might offer that would help more. I think when we get a new website there will be a lot more on it for chapters and for people looking for chapters. We have had some setbacks on the new website front but all of the "movers and shakers" believe that the National needs to do more to promote and help the chapters.



I find the note that the nawcc needs money and thus does not have spare funds to assist/support chapters. RATHER INTERESTING>I know for a fact it is the chapter/chapters that fork over monies from marts and regionals to the national; THEREFORE, are not or have not the chapters been providing monies TO THE NAWCC? I once observed that the Pasadena chapter operators forwarded $50,000 to the national from one of the regionals there.

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The whole arrangement is one sided.

It amazes me that you have all put up with it for so long when the clear winner is the NAWCC.

That's why they don't want to change anything.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:10 pm Reply with quote
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StephanG wrote:
The whole arrangement is one sided.

It amazes me that you have all put up with it for so long when the clear winner is the NAWCC.

That's why they don't want to change anything.


Quite frankly, I find this reply offensive. If by win you mean that be successful then I want the NAWCC to win. I find my NAWCC membership to be one of the great pleasures in my life. I am sorry you don't Stephan.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:57 pm Reply with quote
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We are still awaiting a better chapter presence on the nawcc home page!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:04 pm Reply with quote
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I find the note that the nawcc needs money and thus does not have spare funds to assist/support chapters. RATHER INTERESTING>I know for a fact it is the chapter/chapters that fork over monies from marts and regionals to the national; THEREFORE, are not or have not the chapters been providing monies TO THE NAWCC? I once observed that the Pasadena chapter operators forwarded $50,000 to the national from one of the regionals there.

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No, the suggestion that National pressures chapters to "fork over" anything is not true and National receives no monies from marts or regionals. Those are the right facts. It is completely accurate and wonderful to inform that many chapters, like many members, chose to donate to National (including, if they so desire, to help fund specific museum acquisitions, restorations, projects, etc. that their donation can only be used for).
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:54 pm Reply with quote
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Wrong; I was there for that P regional--you were not! It was the talk of the show.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:23 pm Reply with quote
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Jon, I say again with certainty that National does not and has never had a revenue share arrangement with chapter marts or regionals. We may support them with lecturers, exhibit items, help with advertising when asked, etc. But there is zero revenue share to National.

Do you mean National Conventions? There have been three National Conventions in California that would have a revenue share. 1987 in Anaheim basically broke even. 2002 in Anaheim lost money. 2012 in Pasadena was profitable and split with Local Chapters. The just past National Convention in York was supported by many chapters on the east coast - - all of them decided that profits go entirely to National. FYI, next to membership dues & donations, National Convention revenue is usually the next highest line item. All financials are of course public and posted on the website.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:56 pm Reply with quote
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I stand by my statement! You might ask Steve Berger or Kim St Dennis...........

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Athletic?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:31 pm Reply with quote
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interstatetime wrote:
StephanG wrote:
The whole arrangement is one sided.

It amazes me that you have all put up with it for so long when the clear winner is the NAWCC.

That's why they don't want to change anything.


Quite frankly, I find this reply offensive. If by win you mean that be successful then I want the NAWCC to win. I find my NAWCC membership to be one of the great pleasures in my life. I am sorry you don't Stephan.


I have no problem with the NAWCC and the fact that you value your membership is a great thing.

I do not dispute that many feel the same and that is great also.

However, If it is such a good thing why do they not rely on the value and virtue of their own product to sell it ????????????

WhyFORCE people to join.

If someone wants to join a chapter let them.
They will then become aware of the NAWCC and when they see how good it is they will join up.

That would be a perfectly valid way to go to allow people to enter the hobby and grow into it.

The fact that this is not allowed to happen tells me that the NAWCC does not have faith in their own offerings.

They allow people to play on the green board without joining up.
Isn't that just another chapter?

I will stick by my previous comments and I am sorry you find the truth of the situation upsetting.

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