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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:09 pm Reply with quote
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"What makes a collection interesting?"

On its face this question appears VERY sophomoric; however, judging by the responses John sent me it obviously amounts to what one collects, or what the respondents own.

There is a very simple answer to the original question:

A collection of historical, very rare, unusual, all original and superb watches are what makes most collectors' juices flow!

The more the merrier!

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:34 pm Reply with quote
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I dunno-

I never met a watch collection I didn't like~ Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:50 pm Reply with quote
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In the old days I viewed quite a few that had absolutely nothing good whatsoever!

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:38 pm Reply with quote
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I certainly like Jon's idea of an interesting collection but not everyone can afford such a thing so...

I am not like Neil...I don't like every collection. I have seen lots of collections that are accumulations.

I like collections that tell a story. A great collection doesn't have to be composed of rare gems to tell a story. A collection can tell a story if the collector is careful and thoughtful. I liked my collection of 17j Bunns. I like Neil's collection aspiring to have every stinkin' Waltham ever made. I like Darrah's Rockeys. Be careful and thoughtful...tell a story and you will have an interesting collection...interesting to me.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:57 pm Reply with quote
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But, JC, a great collection can be a smaller one with less outlay (I wasn't addressing the WGC!)

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:08 pm Reply with quote
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However, there are many not so great watches with a story.........

Watches can posses a great story re the maker OR the acquisition can be a great story. I like both for different reasons.

Also, here is another category I like very much--watches with character. For example, this includes many earlier English watches--many are one of a kind with incredible workmanship.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:14 am Reply with quote
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Neil, years ago Russ Nelson and I looked at a collection that the owner had collected for decades..........and this collection had virtually nothing but common Elgins and Walthams in 7-15 jewels. There wasn't decent case or even one high jeweled "RR" watch. It was astounding and it was almost like this collector had an eye for junk only. How could someone not have at least one good watch- -this was in the early 1980s when there was plenty of good-great stuff floating around. I remember Russ being bewildered.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:21 am Reply with quote
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Jon wrote:
Neil, years ago Russ Nelson and I looked at a collection that the owner had collected for decades..........and this collection had virtually nothing but common Elgins and Walthams in 7-15 jewels. There wasn't decent case or even one high jeweled "RR" watch. It was astounding and it was almost like this collector had an eye for junk only. How could someone not have at least one good watch- -this was in the early 1980s when there was plenty of good-great stuff floating around. I remember Russ being bewildered.


It was telling him a story, whether he was aware of it or not.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:13 am Reply with quote
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Watches that tell a story...might make a great collection. I wasn't talking about a watch that tells a story. I was talking about a collection of watches with a theme/story. Like...maybe the evolution of 960 series Hamiltons. These aren't particularly rare or expensive (not like '72 American grades or Patek minute repeaters) but make an interesting collection....that tells a story.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:12 pm Reply with quote
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Above was the first mention of theme.........

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:14 pm Reply with quote
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darrah wrote:
Jon wrote:
Neil, years ago Russ Nelson and I looked at a collection that the owner had collected for decades..........and this collection had virtually nothing but common Elgins and Walthams in 7-15 jewels. There wasn't decent case or even one high jeweled "RR" watch. It was astounding and it was almost like this collector had an eye for junk only. How could someone not have at least one good watch- -this was in the early 1980s when there was plenty of good-great stuff floating around. I remember Russ being bewildered.


It was telling him a story, whether he was aware of it or not.


A 'theme' of 7 jewelers! ha

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:16 pm Reply with quote
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What I think we are now talking about are SPECIALITY COLLECTIONS.

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Sounds more like a 7J pocket watch hoarder than a collector. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:47 pm Reply with quote
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Well -

A Specialty Collection can mean different things to different people.

For Darrah and myself, it is simple in that we are trying to assemble a complete set of all the grades and executions for the company we are focused on.

For Jon - it would be a set of all the virgin GOTF's ever assembled!

John Cote - what is your specialty - all the Pawn Shop Scores you ever made?

Wink Just Joking~

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:56 pm Reply with quote
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Not true for me as I collect all companies!

Neil, not all rarities exist in GEM condition!

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