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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:47 pm Reply with quote
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I am certain of that now that you mentioned it.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:53 pm Reply with quote
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Neil

I can only speak about Model 83’s of course.

Look at the hand written records.

Runs for W.W.Co.:

3522001 – 3522075 and 3529701 – 3529725

Both of these runs have a comment of “Damaskeened” both runs are gilt.

Runs fro AT&Co.:

4199001 – 4199500 and 4199501 – 4200000

Both of these runs have a comment of “Damaskeened.

4528001 – 4528500

This run has a comment of “Dam.” And I have recorded both gilt and gilt damaskeened watches in this run.

And here is a 1894 Waltham ad from the jewelers circular that states gilt damaskeened.

Appleton Tracy’s were made in gilt, nickel and gilt damaskeened. The Grade 25 was never made in gilt, so the gilt damaskeened for that grade would have been a nickel movement with gilt applied over the nickel.

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Good information.

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Here is one I see from time to time

" Over wound "

Usually given as the reason the watch does not run.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:18 pm Reply with quote
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Right!

And there's the meaningless "wants to run."
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:30 am Reply with quote
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Steve -

Thanks for the explanation. IT appears from the literature that no distinction was made between watches that were gilt-gilt damaskeened and watches that were nickel-gilt damaskeened.

I think for collector purposes there should be some kind of distinction. I collect both variants and treat them as different.

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After "mint" and "brassing" MAYBE THE WORST is NO RESERVE
but the bidding starts at 9000. (for example) Hey dummy, THAT 9000. IS THE RESERVE!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:17 pm Reply with quote
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another popular fraudulent description--LOOKS ORIGINAL

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Another popular one

" HIGHLY COLLECTABLE "

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Now the clowns are referring to made up watches as Frankenstein watches; the term is Frankenwatch.

The correct term should read "Frankenstein's monster watch."

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I think the vintage car people have done a better job of this side of things than we have.

They use the term " Original " and have a pretty rigid set of rules surrounding the use of the word when describing a car.

Below that sits the term " period correct " and then things get a bit looser below that.

There are a lot of cars made up from parts but these tend to get appreciated for what they are without the need to guild the lilly.

Some are still nice and others less so but they are not all relegated to the bottom of the barrel.
In a way this is good because there is less incentive to try to hide what has been changed.

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