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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:59 pm Reply with quote
434richmond
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Stephen is probably the closest to my answer. I enjoy the hobby,
I like a simple 15j Marion with a Butterfly cut out, or a Howard III
key wind.

There's only 3 on here that know me, and one of them is no
longer with us. The other one is our chief exec and then Steve.
It's hard to get me riled, but you're welcome to give it a shot.
Life is to short for bull shi*. I check in for content.

So Bryan I now take this as a challenge, I look forward to the
fireworks. Keith

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:50 pm Reply with quote
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True horologists enjoy the hobby as Keith said above. It has to be fun; most of the dealers do it for the money and the fun is lost.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:02 pm Reply with quote
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Jon wrote:
True horologists enjoy the hobby as Keith said above. It has to be fun; most of the dealers do it for the money and the fun is lost.
I have no problem making money and having fun at the same time and have been doing it for 48 years. There still is a thrill when I buy a killer piece and shove it into the black hole, not to be seen again for decades. Very Happy Geno
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:08 pm Reply with quote
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That's because you are not the greedy type fighting for every dollar. Changing markets have given quite a few dealers bad dispositions.

So you are the one with whom they refer to as "the black hole!" Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:16 am Reply with quote
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Jon wrote:
That's because you are not the greedy type fighting for every dollar. Changing markets have given quite a few dealers bad dispositions.

So you are the one with whom they refer to as "the black hole!" Wink
No your black hole is way bigger than mine. Geno
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:40 am Reply with quote
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434richmond wrote:
Stephen is probably the closest to my answer. I enjoy the hobby,
I like a simple 15j Marion with a Butterfly cut out, or a Howard III
key wind.

There's only 3 on here that know me, and one of them is no
longer with us. The other one is our chief exec and then Steve.
It's hard to get me riled, but you're welcome to give it a shot.
Life is to short for bull shi*. I check in for content.

So Bryan I now take this as a challenge, I look forward to the
fireworks. Keith


So someone asks you to clarify an otherwise confusing rant and you take that as a challenge?

I think I've heard enough.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:13 pm Reply with quote
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GOLD up today 25.00

Now let the scrapping commence again!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:33 pm Reply with quote
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A true enthusiast buys what he likes regardless of the cost.

Once you put your dealers hat on the buy price becomes a consideration because you want to be able to re sell at a profit.

A true enthusiast doesn't scrap because he loves his watches and will always try to find a home for them even if it costs him.

Once you put your dealers hat on scrapping becomes a viable option for those worn cases you can't sell.

If I forget watches for a bit and talk about vintage cars a true enthusiast picks a car, falls in love with it and restores it whatever it costs.
You often see them get sold at a certain price with receipts for 2 or 3 times as much spent on them.

A dealer always sticks to cars he can buy, restore and sell at a profit.

On the surface it looks like the same thing but the truly magical restorations usually come from the first group.

Again I am not biased towards either side of the equation as any hobby needs both but there is a difference and I will stick to my view that you can't be both.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:59 pm Reply with quote
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Jon wrote:
GOLD up today 25.00

Now let the scrapping commence again!
Price has nothing to do with it, there was scrapping going on when gold was $80. An ugly worn case is never going to be worth more than scrap, plus movement, just a fact of the market that has been true for the last 50 years. I've said it a million times, it's not scrapping that is bad, it is scrapping the wrong watches that is bad. Geno
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:25 pm Reply with quote
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You missed this one--IT WAS TONGUE IN CHEEK! Idea

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:20 am Reply with quote
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I didn't know if was tongue in cheek or just sticking your tongue out. By the way my watch is broken, but since I don't have to be anywhere, I don't have to fix it. Yogi Berra
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