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John Knight & Co.
PostForum: 1877 model Waltham FORUM   Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:01 pm   Subject: John Knight & Co.
Neilywatch
 
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Only 100 made in 2 runs total.

This one, is the first one I've seen and found after nearly 20 years of looking.

Why do you suppose the only the orders for the English jobbers made it into the Le ...
Another employee, practice or fake?
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:00 pm   Subject: Another employee, practice or fake?
Neilywatch
 
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My '72 discussed above has flush screws but they are domed and uniform.

Ive seen that modification with some of the grades that went to the UK.
Another employee, practice or fake?
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:50 pm   Subject: Another employee, practice or fake?
Neilywatch
 
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LEDGER STATES:

Nickel Riverside Grade with 15j - adjusted - made sometime in 1893.

SO, it's not fake, IMO.


Movement is obviously original but the up jeweling work is not original!
Another employee, practice or fake?
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:47 pm   Subject: Another employee, practice or fake?
Neilywatch
 
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Jewel screws should always be flush or recessed from the back of the plate.

IF you look carefully there are no dimplemarks on the settings, but they are present on the plate itself.
Another employee, practice or fake?
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:44 pm   Subject: Another employee, practice or fake?
Neilywatch
 
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Mike -

First of all it is a beautiful watch, no matter what!

This is 16j.

So here is what I see. The jewel cups dont look right. Im used to seeing gold cups that a bit more refined (and ma ...
Faked/up jeweled 1872
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:05 pm   Subject: Faked/up jeweled 1872
Neilywatch
 
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This particular discussion has produced no consensus - I'm not angry - just a little frustrated.

It was educational only in the sense that I realized not every customized watch is a Employee watch ...
Faked/up jeweled 1872
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:23 pm   Subject: Faked/up jeweled 1872
Neilywatch
 
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OK GUYS

While we are on the subject of what is Fake or Not? I have posted in the Waltham section a very unique watch.

Go over there and start arguing over THAT one!
Faked/up jeweled 1872
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:07 pm   Subject: Faked/up jeweled 1872
Neilywatch
 
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I purchased this on ebay from Andy Swartz (watchrulesformejr), who in turn bought one of those huge movement lots on jones and horan.
The lots were sold in 2022, so unless you know the consignor, tha ...
Faked/up jeweled 1872
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:48 am   Subject: Faked/up jeweled 1872
Neilywatch
 
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I prefer to use to use the term "Customized".

And yes, it is impossible to actually know if these were made by employees.

So - we'll go with Customized until proven otherwise.
Faked/up jeweled 1872
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:52 pm   Subject: Faked/up jeweled 1872
Neilywatch
 
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Jon -

I would love to have actual documented employee watches, but those are few and far in between.

Here is one of my favorite "Employee" watches
Faked/up jeweled 1872
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:41 pm   Subject: Faked/up jeweled 1872
Neilywatch
 
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Geno -

Your WW's are for a higher grade of 72.
Faked/up jeweled 1872
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:39 pm   Subject: Faked/up jeweled 1872
Neilywatch
 
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And of course any Employee watch is altered from the normal factory configuration, but Waltham tolerated that?

They encouraged it, maybe?

I must have like 20 examples of this kind of activity?
...
Faked/up jeweled 1872
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:30 pm   Subject: Back of Train Plate of 16j 72 Riverside
Neilywatch
 
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OK Guys -

I took the watch apart.

1st I can confirm the watch has only 16j. There is no lower center wheel jewel.

Second please look at the way the jewel is installed. it is Burnished in - ...
Faked/up jeweled 1872
PostForum: The Watch Collectors' Journal    Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:45 pm   Subject: Faked/up jeweled 1872
Neilywatch
 
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You guys are unbelievable.

I was the buyer of this example..

It is listed in the records as a 15j Riverside - What some twit did was polish the plates, so that's why it looked washed out.

Som ...
Watchmaking by Sir George Daniels, 1981 original edition
PostForum: EMART   Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:07 pm   Subject: Watchmaking by Sir George Daniels, 1981 original edition
Neilywatch
 
Replies: 16
Views: 670




Not the one I have...........

LMAO - actually the signature is worth more than the book.
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